Neal
Poole, United Kingdom
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28 Apr, 2011 05:33:39 |
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Below is a Chinese text about their history:
刘备死后，诸葛亮辅佐少主刘禅，独撑危局。其间，诸葛亮坚持联吴抗曹的基本方略，七擒孟获之后，稳定了后方。又先后六出祁山伐魏，但均以失败告终，诸葛亮也积劳成疾，病死军中。他死后，姜维继其职，先后九伐中原，同样无功而返。后主刘禅昏职聩，朝政腐败，蜀汉国力日渐衰弱
Here is the literal translation to English:
Liu2 bei4 died, zhuge liang, alone less adjuvant Lord liu chan supports extinction. Meanwhile, zhuge liang insists united wu the basic policy, resistance to cao meng huo gone after seven, stabilize the rear. And has six qi mountain simvastatin wei, but failed, zhuge liang also became ill because of overwork, ill army. After his death, concubines Victoria after thinning, successively nine considers central, same hues. Save Kui, discusses the stunning liu chan as corrupt, the shu increasingly weak strength
So now you now you know why your letters aren't exactly translated to your satisfaction and it gets so damn frustrating to receive cut and pasted formatted letters [muffs]. It is easy for the translators. By the way any scholars out there wish to offer up the correct translation it would be nice. Just for our amusement. By the way the reason some of the replies are very quick is because the agencies pass info on by QQ straight to the girls mobile phones and they can reply back within minutes. QQ don't forget is the Chinese equivalent to our Facebook but better!
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Michael
Nashan, China
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28 Apr, 2011 17:47:21 |
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Reminds me of when I first arrived in China I would be relying on this Besta 7,000 translator and this damn thing kept spitting out Golden Mountain Buddha and for the life of me I can't imagine how it came up with this answer. English to Chinese is iffy at best on any translation program. QQ, give me a break, nothing but an elaborate chatroom. Chinese characters 5,000 maybe traditional, maybe 500 regularly used. Hence translation is highly questionable when the rudimentory language is so broad and vague. Quite a few times I was too lazy to switch off the English subtitles on pirated western DVDs. Yeah, guess what? What I was hearing and what was being printed on the screen were two completely different concepts. Case in point I was watching a recent movie and the term Holy Sh*t was heard yet St. Sh*t was printed on the English subtitles. I don't know about you yet know the two are not the same thing. One can be holy yet not have reached sainthood. Three miracles have to be acknowledged by the church to be considered a saint.
China Shark Mike version 6.0
Food for thought???
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Neal
Poole, United Kingdom
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02 May, 2011 00:56:03 |
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Mike liked the anecdote about the translator! Gave me a chuckle. But your last comment gave me an idea about my first impressions of China.
Follow up to translation woes -
Before coming to China and meeting your lady there are quite a few things you should really consider:
Food – if you think you’re going to eat Chinese food like it is prepared in the west, you best think again. All meat that has a bone in is cooked with the bone and that includes chicken and duck, but not in the same manner as we prepare our food. Everything is cut up into chunks with bone and then steamed or boiled to make a soup, every visible part of the animal is consumed [it isn’t processed into sausages or the like], and vegetables are fried or part steamed. I’ll never forget the chicken feet in my soup the first time it was offered to me. And some of the vegetables take some getting used to, but you will find traditional western veggies as well. Fish is cooked whole with the head and fins and you have to wade through the bones to find the flesh. Go to a restaurant and everything is in Chinese though most menus do include glossy photos to show the dish on offer, but you will have no idea what is in it! Luckily most of the food is quite tasty and not bad to the western pallet. Forget fresh milk!
But if you are really stuck you can always head to a ‘coffee shop’, which is a western style eatery that offers up steak and chops etc. and looks pretty good. It is usually not expensive and includes two starters and soup for about 100rmb. My language school and a local steak house did a promotion on western table manners. Of course yours truly got to be the white face to teach the class and the local television sent in a crew and filmed it all, three nights later I’m on the news! Boy has this added to my ‘face’. Failing all that head over to the nearest KFC or McDonalds, they are everywhere with KFC edging out big macs for popularity. Food can be a pretty big obstacle if you are picky or have certain dietary requirements.
Face – this concept is hard to explain, but rest assured it is alive and thriving here in China! No set rules and the minute you transgress one of these unknown rules you will be duly chastised and rebuked by your lady. I guess the best way to describe it is our concept of respect, integrity, and etiquette all rolled into one. But the level of face can vary from lady to lady and has to do with her ‘traditional values’, but I would say this doesn’t present a problem until you have committed to each other. And the family has a sense of face as well and you become an addition to that face. A bit like upholding the family values or name. Your lady will be fiercely loyal to you and she will expect the same in return, basically if you are used to flirting, change your ways!
You will also be known as the ‘white face’, which is the general description for all western men from our culture despite your actual ethnic background. In Shi shi I am probably the only white face living here that I have seen. I see the occasional new white face at the hotel where the school is located and taxi drivers have told my wife that some white faces do come to the bus and train station for business. So be prepared to go many days if not weeks before you see anyone from your own culture. This can give you a sense of being quite on your own.
Transport – my wife writes things for me in Chinese with the pin ying underneath so I can attempt to say where I want to go, but 95% of the time said driver reads the instructions. Traffic here is without rules and chaotic, bicycles regularly go against the flow of traffic and don’t be surprised to see a car following suit! If you have the green man to cross a road keep looking because tricycles and motos usually don’t heed any traffic signals. As you cross the road on foot conduct the traffic with hand signals to go behind you or put your hand up to stop them, don’t do this and you won’t survive here very long! You’re not safe even on zebra crossing! If you use a taxi, tricycle, or moto be prepared to pay over the odds, best not to go on your own. I always phone my wife when I get into the taxi and she tells the driver where to go and asks how much, if she isn’t happy with the price they usually argue the entire journey and she usually wins. It is all part of the process. Oh what’s a moto? It is small scooter or motorcycle that continually harasses you by offering to take you somewhere. No politeness here they just pull up and shout at you ‘Where go’ and you just reply ‘No go’, then they go onto the next victim. There are literally thousands of the damn things in this town all blaring their horns and shouting! Some even have air horns fitted!
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